First of all, the whole point of a guide is to help someone find something that they probably would have a difficult time finding on their own. They are kind of like maps; they direct us to a particular location by providing information that we otherwise would not be familiar with. If you know the route, then you probably don't need a map, right? The same goes for guides. OK, I know there are a lot of routes in the 'Gunks (over 300), and it is difficult to know them all from start to finish, but one must be able to find the routes, too, right? Let me give you an example about how to find Minty. According to the Swain guide, Minty is, "50 feet right of Snooky's." Well, OK. That's easy enough. So where is Snooky's? According to the Williams guide, Snooky's is "45 feet right of Beginner's Delight." Huh. OK, so where is Beginner's Delight? According to Swain, it is "125 feet right of Asphodel below a big left facing corner system." WHAT THE FUCK PEOPLE?!?!?!?! Do you realize how many stupid left and / or right-facing corner systems there are at the 'Gunks? I mean, let's get real. Is one really supposed to start at climb #1 in the book and walk all the way along the edge of the cliff marking each climb as one goes just so one can find a 5.3 200 routes down the path? Get real.
Look, I know these books are pretty good otherwise, and it would be difficult to describe a climbing area without using this technique of starting with one climb and continuing down the line. And I know that once one knows the 'Gunks then it is easier to move about. I didn't have a problem getting to the climb that I'm bitching about (Minty) because "Ratherbe" knew where to go. But for me to describe to you how to get to this climb is nearly impossible. In fact, I can't really do it without confusing anyone, so I'm making the decision that you are better off not having my directions, because you'll just get lost anyway. Ask someone who knows at the cliff instead.
And if anyone gripes about me not having a solution to my complaint, then here's one: work with the Mohonk Preserve to post signs and names of all the staircases that lead from the carriage trail to the cliff. The names don't have to be creative. In fact, they probably shouldn't be. I would name the trails after the route that is directly at the top of the trail. That way folks can move about much more easily and not have worry about where the hell they are, because the guides certainly aren't going to tell them. If you want to know where High E is, then walk down until you get to the High E trail, then head up. It's that simple.